tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31950358523936946882010-01-22T14:00:54.412-08:00www.stupidchurchpeople.netJoshua Sagernoreply@blogger.comBlogger99125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-19973529241039727892009-11-16T20:36:00.000-08:002009-11-16T20:36:05.198-08:00WHY I AM AN ATHEIST<div style="font: normal normal normal 14px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; text-align: auto;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;">#1) I am an atheist because the god believer has the burden of proof when trying to establish the existence of a god and has not met that burden:</span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">The burden of proof is on the god believer to prove that a god exists. It is not up to the atheist to disprove what has never been established in the first place. So often, I am told, "You cannot prove that there is no god." This is backwards reasoning. I am not obligated to disprove that a leprechaun is standing beside you. You must first prove to me that one is there. Otherwise, I am under no obligation to accept your leprechaun hypothesis. The default position would be "anti-leprechaunism," you could say. Is it possible that a leprechaun is next to you? Sure, but I have no reason to believe such a thing, and until I do, I will keep being an "anti-leprechaunist"!The same applies to gods and goddesses of all varieties. On all counts, the theist fails to meet his burden of proof and therefore, atheism stands by default.<br /><br /><b>#2) I am an atheist because all the world's religions have failed to demonstrate that they are ways to a god: </b></span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">They are all based on the ignorance of man trying to explain the world in terms he can understand. Religions (or the notions that later became religions) were built to enable man to feel that he controlled his destiny and the natural world around him, yet these religions exhibit no signs that a supernatural being is behind them, not one. None of them have been able to demonstrate supernatural origins at all. None of them have been able to tell us what science has told us about the origin of our universe. Why don't any of them speak of the big bang as our origin? Basically, there is nothing about any of them that compels the educated mind of today to give them a second look. Every religion is just as desperate and hopeless as the next. All of them are trying to heighten man's place in a world of catastrophe and pain. How sad!<br /><br /><b>#3) I am an atheist because all I know is the natural world: </b></span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">All of my senses are for the natural world. My desires and longings are fleshly in nature. No deity has manifested himself in our purely physical world: One thing about these gods and goddesses is their terrible timing and planning! Their strange methodology and tendencies to keep hiding when we need them the most is undeniable.<br /><br />I am supposed to believe that a being invisible to the naked eye is lurking above the heavens, is great enough to guide my life, hear my every prayer, and direct my every step, but for some strange reason, refuses to manifest himself directly to his highest creation man? I have never talked to this being even once. I must ask, why? I used to think this a selfish line of questioning, but now I can find not one good reason to keep guessing why a God who loves and wants so much for us would refuse to acknowledge his physical existence. Very simply, I am weary of anyone who claims ownership of our bodies and even our very "souls," and yet I am compelled to dispute his existence! Not only that, I see no miracles, no resurrections, no signs in the heavens, no accurate revelations to man. I observe absolutely nothing that makes me to look "beyond the clouds" for a god.<br /><br />The mystic and the psychic tell me there is a "third eye" I can open by meditating and using the right drugs. They tell me nonsense like the idea that I only use 10% of my brain and that the other sections are roped off for "the spiritual man to uncover." This is a spooky world for the mystic. He accepts telekinesis, psychic surgery, UFO abductions, crop circle phenomenon, Ouija boards, and pseudo-scientific claims on every level. He believes in an immortal nature within man, a human spirit that can leave and enter the body with the right "enlightenment." Haunted houses and unexplained phenomenon are exaggerated to be ghostly encounters when these explanations grossly fail to pass the tests of critical examination.<br /><br />When all of the hoopla is cleared away, I am left with nature, mundane and boring as it sometimes can be. If I am confined to live in and abide by the rules of a natural world, then I must try and explain my world on the very same principles. Again, all I can see and verify is the natural, so it makes no sense to draw crazy conclusions that there is a "non-matter" entity out there that runs the show. The law of rationality demands that I draw only those conclusions that are warranted by the evidence: I see, hear, feel, touch, and smell nature. I am obligated to find the simplest answer that accounts for my observational data and sensory perceptions of the world.<br /><br /><b>#4) I am an atheist because being so enables me to make honest decisions about things in the world around me: </b></span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Not being committed to a doctrine enables me to study the world and accept what I see as a valid explanation of itself. The religious man, particularly the fundamentalist, is enslaved to a doctrine, a belief system that must be right at all costs. He must reason backwards, finding evidences that back up his preconceived ideas. His eternal soul rests on justifying what he already believes true. Therefore, his objectivity is lost in the process.<br /><br />For instance, the Christian must accept all bible discrepancies and atrocities as just and right actions from a just and right God. He must accept everything the book reveals, lock, stock, and barrel. He cannot discriminate based on reason what he will or will not accept. One of the biggest benefits of science to man is that science is self-correcting, unlike theology! When a scientist and his work are found to be wrong, his next step is to correct it, or if he can't, to throw it out. Science rectifies itself whereas archaic theology will always remain the same.<br /><br /><b>#5) I am an atheist because faith is a flawed system to live by: </b></span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">"But where does faith come in?," the Christian asks. "No where at all," I reply. Faith is a flawed system to live by. Think about it for a minute. Every religious American every Sunday or Saturday goes to his/her church with the same belief that god is encouraging their actions. The Seventh Day Adventist feels that god has led him to accept the ten commandments as still binding today. He disagrees with his Baptist and Methodist neighbors he adores so much. Meanwhile, the Baptist and Methodist neighbors go to their own churches and sing another worn out verse to "Amazing Grace." They listen to the charming preacher and get their feel good pills for the week. They've been told that their sins are forgiven. They are saved by faith alone. The Church of Christ Scientist believes that god has forbidden the use of medications. Their children can die for lack of them, but by faith, they walk their spiritual walk onward believing they are pleasing God. The Mormon arrives at his worship hour waiting to be encouraged and strengthened for taking such criticism from the rest of Christianity that he has been receiving all week for following Joseph Smith, that great prophet who founded their church. He is happy to sing another verse of, "Give Me Back My Prophet," in his Mormon hymn book.<br /><br />What's wrong with this picture? The problem with this picture is faith. This I-don't-know-but-I-believe-god-is-with-me idea is the very cause of the division Christianity keeps producing. Everyone in our scenario above is a victim of faith. He believes God is with him but has no way of establishing the truth of the matter. In a way, believers, especially the evangelical type, are salesman: they (a) create a need for their product in convincing people they have a problem. And (b) they show why their product is the ideal cure, and that (c) brand(s) X(other faiths and religions) are not as good as theirs! There are conversions every which way, into and out of every religion worldwide. What does god really want? Which church is his church? Does he even desire Sunday worship at all? You will never know for sure, but you can "have faith," empty and not so reassuring as it is. This system will never work for one who must have answers. Go to your local library and educate yourself on matters of science if you long for better assurance of facts. Those who desire closure and security will never find it in Christianity. It is not there to be had. No assurance cannot be called "blessed assurance."<br /><br /><b>#6) I am an atheist because I got tired of playing the guessing game: </b></span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">This was probably the hardest aspect of Christianity to cope with. Christianity was a game, a guessing game where you tried with all your heart to find out what God wanted for you, but never could make sense of anything that happened around you. I grew tired of trying to guess just where and how God was involved in my life.<br /><br />The same guessing game would sprout up every time a tragedy sprung up on one of God's people. Brother Bob was killed in a car wreck on the way to a gospel meeting. He was going to preach the gospel of Christ that night, but was killed thanks to a drunk driver. Surely God would have wanted this brother alive? He was going to preach his word. Brother Bob was walking in the light and following the Lord. What happened? It was in god's power to prevent this tragedy. That puts this tragedy on God. I thought God was supposed to be there for us in times of need? Were there too many preachers and this was God's way of firing brother Bob? Was he going to preach soul-damning error and the Lord was doing us all a favor by eliminating him? Did he have some sordid sin in his life that God was tired of seeing and decided that it was time for brother Bob to cash in his chips? <br />Was brother Bob's family being chastened by God by his death to strengthen them, or how about me maybe?<br /><br />When I would pray and ask God for something and got no answer, the mind naturally begins to consider why. "Maybe God did not grant my prayer request because it was not in accordance with his will for me? Maybe God will answer it, but will do in his own time. How long will that be and how do I know when I receive such an answer? When the prayer is answered, how do I know it would not have happened anyway? What if God told me no? But wait, my request was definitely in accordance with his will I know, so why do I see no results? Maybe I am not praying long and hard enough. Guess I'll just keep praying and waiting for something to happen."<br /><br />When it comes to the will of the gods, the questions and possibilities are as endless as the grains of sand on planet earth. Too many strange things happen not to question the nature of these things. I must confess, if what some theists say is true and God has a "secret plan that we humans will just never understand," then I've got to hand it to him, he has done the best job anyone could ever do! No one could possibly make sense of all the tragedies, unexplained deaths, religious confusion, natural phenomenon, and heartache that he allows to go on every day of this life. I never knew or could know if and what God ever did. I had to live each day with the same confusion every body else faced with no way to identify what was and was not God's will. I decided I was finished guessing and ready to start knowing! It all got old. I couldn't take it any longer.<br /><br /><b>#7) I am an atheist because I got tired of trying to find connections where there were none: </b></span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">One big tendency of the human mind is to see connections where none exist. Let's look at the Christian apologist's approach to finding evidences of bible inspiration.<br /><br />The Christians have long maintained that certain events in the Old Testament are foreshadowings of the New Testament, particularly in the life of Christ. For example, theists say that Joseph and Jesus are types of each other. Joseph was rejected by his brothers, and after spending time in a pit (a symbol of the grave), Joseph was exalted and his brethren revered him. Jesus was rejected by his people and after his crucifixion, was exalted, and his brothers (in faith) revered him.<br /><br />In the first judgment of the earth in the days of Noah, God swore he would never again use water to vanquish evil. Instead, just the opposite of water, fire is to be God's new weapon of choice (2 Peter 3:10).<br /><br />Any time a freethinker finds fault with Christ's decision to wait over two thousand years to come back to earth, theologians are excited to point out that the skeptics are "fulfilling the prophecy of Peter" in 2 Peter 3:5, "In the last time mockers shall come walking after their lusts and saying, 'where is the promise of his coming'?"<br /><br />In Exodus 32, the people of Israel sinned by worshipping the golden calf. God is angry with the people for their sins and purposes to destroy Israel. Moses acts as a mediator for the people in persuading God to spare them. Theologians draw attention to how Christ does the same for us before the father (I Timothy 2:5). Not to mention, both were marked for death at birth, and both had a radiant face, etc.<br /><br />The above scriptural comparisons are examples of how the Christian theist reasons. In light of these cited instances, it seems to be happy hunting ground for the theist. He has so many "foreshadowing evidences" of inspiration. Of course, to reason this way is unfounded. There are no connections between the events of the Old Testament characters and the New Testament's Son of God that are genuine. Jesus and Joseph have only as much in common as the myth makers of the New Testament wanted Christ to be like. Even if the Christ myth was based on a real individual, the cited connections are far from remarkable. The same is obvious of Moses and Christ. There can be no "prophetic connections" because the New Testament was written after the Old. All of the Jewish qualities seen in Jesus were so created to appeal to the Jews and pagans, respectively. Peter's "prophecy" of mockers is all but indicative of a distinct saintly voice trying to slow down the inevitable decline of faith in a mythical savior who stood his disciples up and has never returned, or at best, proved to be a savior who abandoned his cult because of inevitable human mortality.<br /><br />I can remember being so charmed with these and a hundred more little "examples of inspirations" I thought I found. But as I said, theists find connections where there are none. Obscure passages come to life for them because of their burning convictions that passages do, in fact, say what they so badly want to believe about them. Without this bridge-building, passage-connecting "faith," a study of the bible is only a study of an ancient text reflecting the views of the time in which it was written. Without blind and overly-optimistic faith, the "good book" is nothing more than an ancient capsule of obsolete theology from an age long gone. It will fail every critical test and offer little to a new and modern world.<br /><br /><b>#8) I am an atheist because man is an animal and not a special creation or divinely destined creature: </b></span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"><br />Animals, regardless of intelligence, are animals, and animals are beasts of nature, products of a savage world, hardly worthy of the standards of a Heaven or Hell. Perhaps the late Charles Lee Smith, President and founder of the America Association for the Advancement of Atheism, said it best in his debate with O.C. Oliphant, "The descendants of apes need no savior." [The Oliphant-Smith Debate, p. 34. 1929] How true! Geology, biology, and just about every other academic field will verify this fact.<br /><br />A stout look at our physical make-up will reveal that we humans eat, sleep, procreate, and defecate-- along with the rest of the animals. We get goose bumps when we are cold or scared to help our "fur" stand taller and thus, have a better chance of survival. Our fingers have nails on their ends, remnants of claws from a very long time ago. They are made of keratin, the same substance which composes all claws. To this day, members of our society suffer herniated disks and foot and arch problems due to our lack of adaptation to walking upright on land. This kill-or-be-killed nature of the world shows a very cruel god, in fact, an infinitely evil god, if one exists at all! What would we do to a genius scientist who, if he had a choice in the matter, chose to set up a system of life where higher life forms eat the lower ones! We would find it unthinkably cruel, but we give god a pass on it! As I said, Infinitely evil!<br /><br />Man is an animal, despite his big brain, his relatively hairless physique, his proudly upright posture, and his washed and deodorized body! DNA used to conduct paternity tests and tell us who the father and mother of a child is, will tell the story of our evolutionary descent and kinship with every other life form on earth. We share over 98% of our DNA with our closest cousins, the chimpanzees. Other forms of life, beginning with mammals, going on down through amphibians, reptiles, and bacteria show successively less genetic similarity to us. This conclusively proves our kinship to the animal kingdom.<br /><br /><b>#9) I am an atheist because Christianity (and all theism) manifests self-centered arrogance, the height of unfounded pride, and pompousness egotism: </b></span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Often the atheist is accused of being the arrogant one in a discussion of spiritual vs. materialistic matters, but the Christian is the guilty one. I can imagine no more arrogant of a philosophy than one which states that intelligent man is the greatest and most prized creation in the universe. Isn't this convenient? The mighty silverback with his strength, or the bull elephant is not so loved, nor is the industrious otter the #1 creation, though he works so tirelessly to build a great home and dam that is truly a work of wildlife art. In addition to being a great builder, the otter manages not to kill his own kind as humans do. It is man who is capable of so much more than every other creature, he is the greatest. On top of our many accomplishments, we have sky spirits that take special interest. Wow! Now our heads get even bigger!<br /><br />The arrogance of Christianity is seen in the purpose of God for man. I must ask why the omnipotent creator of heaven and earth needs lowly me to do anything? The child likes to play in his backyard and pretend that the general has called him on a secret and very important mission to accomplish. The same type of childish motive is found in Christianity. I am commissioned to bring a message to those around me who do not have it, in order to establish their hearts as dwelling places for God. Souls are at risk! The mission is crucial! Why didn't the almighty bother to take the time and implant his important knowledge in everyone's mind? Why does the almighty need me to do anything he could do by the slightest of thoughts? If there is humility in serving God and trusting some unknown higher power to reveal the deep mysteries of life, then where is the humility in believing in only one God? Why not a god for the trees, the animals, the different rocks, and the seas, and mountains? Are polytheists more humble?<br /><br />This God business is a big business and has gone through a lot of changes through the last few millennia. The seafarer of old watched the stars. The old world farmer trusted the sun and the gods of vegetation. Today, the good Bible-believing Christian trusts his three-in-one God to give him purpose, hope, and a home beyond the clouds, which brings us to the next little arrogant aspect of Christianity, eternal life. Why I must live on after the grave is arguably the most selfish thing of all. Once I arrive, what makes me so important that I am indispensable? Why must I abide forever? Isn't it interesting how we hear so little about the great before and so much about the great beyond? The arrogance of Christianity is definitely a comforting religious notion for man, for it tells him how undeniably important he is to the universe itself. He is at the center of it and it revolves around him. Can't I live out my days here in dignity with sobriety and honesty? The real humility of materialism says "yes" while arrogant theism says "no." If it were up to believers in fundamentalist Christianity, there wouldn't even be a space program!<br /><br /><b>#10) I am an atheist because the natural sciences bankrupt the bible, and theism in general: </b></span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Astronomy, usually held to be one of the most awe-inspiring proofs of God, was one of my biggest hurts of faith. I did not see a hand of god declaring his glory in the heavens. I see a myriad of stars, some brighter and more glorious than our own.<br /><br />I see one planet teaming with life amidst gaseous, lethal pockets of stardust and radiation, pure chaos in action! Our solar system bears the scars of its cruel evolution. The planet Mercury is so close to the sun that she scorches on one side and freezes on the other. Venus, though originally much like earth, has been consumed by heat hot enough to melt lead! A runaway greenhouse effect got started making the planet unlivable. Earth, Mars, and the two planets we've just mentioned dwell closer to the sun because of their heavy rocky weight, whereas the gas giants dwell further away due to their light gases of which they are composed. This suggests a natural explanation for our solar system and not a divinely created one. Planets like Saturn and Uranus have rings because of collisions of massive meteors ages ago. Moons have craters for the same reason. Moons themselves form by way of catastrophes. Our earth wobbles on its axis causing storms and natural catastrophes, not to mention ice ages. Were it not for a decent electromagnetic field, we would cook in cosmic solar radiation. We are one planet of nine planets, orbiting a star which is only one of several hundred billion in just our galaxy. At least, 125 billion other galaxies exist rendering earth as insignificant as a speck of dust orbiting a quasar 8 billion light years away. Astronomy testifies to man's departure as the supremely important being in the universe! Earth is barely fit to our survival and it won't be forever.<br /><br />Whether its astronomy, biology, cosmology, or zoology, the natural sciences forever remove god's role as ruler of the universe.<br /><br /><b>#11) I am an atheist because God's living room has been getting smaller and smaller each generation: </b></span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"><br />As we said, the sciences, with one voice, with one voice, force God out of the picture. He must find a new home in the world. Now God lives only in the gaps of our knowledge of the world. Those gaps are closing quickly. We used to think that the earth was flat. The bible even tells us so, "The pillars of the earth tremble" (Job 9:6). Now we know better. We used to think that earth was at the center of the universe and unmoving. The bible even tells us so, "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever" (Psalm 104:5). Now we know better. We used to believe that stars are just points of light in the sky. Indeed, the bible tells us so.<br /><br />The bible mentions two creations, the creation of the sun, and the creation of the stars, "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also" (Genesis 1:16). Notice how God created the greater light (the sun) to rule the day, and then as an afterthought, "made the stars also!" This shows that the ancient writers of Genesis had no understanding as to the nature of stars (if the bible were the product of inspiration, it should!). Again, now we know better! We used to believe that the earth was six thousand years old. The bible implies every bit as much by adding up the ages of the patriarchs and comparing the genealogies of Jesus which go all the way back to creation (Matthew 1/Luke 3). Since Jesus said man was created, "from the beginning of the creation" (Mark 10:6), this leaves no time for additional eons to be inserted to account for the ancient (billions of years old) earth that almost all scientists in the world recognize to be the obvious truth.</span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">-------</span><br /></div><div style="font: 14.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; line-height: 16.0px; margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">The above was not written by me. It was written by Joe E. Holman at <a href="http://ministerturnsatheist.blogspot.com/"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px color: #2500b0; text-decoration: underline;"><b>http://ministerturnsatheist.blogspot.com</b></span></a>. I have had many people ask me why I am no longer a Christian and Joe summed up a lot of my belief and non-belief. What is missing from this is my personal story. If you want to know that ... well ...</span><br /></div><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-1997352924103972789?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-80352703412372269572008-12-16T10:18:00.000-08:002009-11-16T20:41:30.814-08:00Keep your Jesus off my Penis!!!<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/hWFoNznHAFY&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hWFoNznHAFY&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-8035270341237226957?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-89460033917614144132008-08-14T21:36:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:30.827-08:00God's "Other" Son<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NFwvs8eYt6E&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/NFwvs8eYt6E&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br />If it were only true.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-8946003391761414413?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-2470307807408968302008-08-07T08:27:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:30.838-08:00Religicles - Jesus shaped snack<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ACHRUFNxEuE&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ACHRUFNxEuE&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br />Lickin' my sins away!<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-247030780740896830?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-10172637623873263962008-08-06T21:12:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:30.846-08:00Rattlesnake Handling Church<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ObhvOeNCKhs&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ObhvOeNCKhs&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br />Keep drinking the kool-aid!<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-1017263762387326396?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-20830856239012905182008-08-05T00:00:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:30.855-08:00How Big Is Your Jesus?<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/how_big_is_your_jesus-726316.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/how_big_is_your_jesus-726288.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />About 7-8 inches.<br /><br />He is my Savior.<br /><br />He is risen, HE IS RISEN INDEED!<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-2083085623901290518?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-66744643594061183152008-07-03T21:44:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:30.866-08:00SalesmenEven the amazing, authentic, radical and new have a clever "angle". <br /><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/oy60yekBPUg&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/oy60yekBPUg&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br />And slowly the Emergent Church unveils themselves as being just like the others. Clever. How's that working out for you? Thanks Tony!<br /><br />Seriously...<br /><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/osEgw-GMMgU&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/osEgw-GMMgU&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br />Gimmick. What ever it takes. As long as you save just one.<br /><br />Attention Whore much?<br /><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/seuS5w_xDgg&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/seuS5w_xDgg&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br />I question and think you might actually be gay. Seriously. For McLaren.<br /><br />And soooooo full of himself.<br /><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Cym1XozEtzk&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Cym1XozEtzk&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br /><br />WOW.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-6674464359406118315?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-28430258950305455382008-06-26T16:32:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:30.878-08:00For good time go here:<a href="http://www.momiamdonegoingpoop.com">www.momiamdonegoingpoop.com</a><br /><br />This was my mother's day gift to my mom.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-2843025895030545538?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-80417941753494473702008-06-23T17:12:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:30.893-08:00SCP Leadership Retreat<object width="369" height="619" align="middle"><param name="FlashVars" VALUE="ids=72157605776929550&names=SCP Leadership Retreat&userName=stupidjosh&userId=27931829@N07&titles=on&source=sets&titles=on&displayNotes=on&thumbAutoHide=off&imageSize=medium&vAlign=mid&displayZoom=off&vertOffset=0&initialScale=off&bgAlpha=67"></param><param name="PictoBrowser" value="http://www.db798.com/pictobrowser.swf"></param><param name="scale" value="noscale"></param><param name="bgcolor" value="#656565"></param><embed src="http://www.db798.com/pictobrowser.swf" FlashVars="ids=72157605776929550&names=SCP Leadership Retreat&userName=stupidjosh&userId=27931829@N07&titles=on&source=sets&titles=on&displayNotes=on&thumbAutoHide=off&imageSize=medium&vAlign=mid&displayZoom=off&vertOffset=0&initialScale=off&bgAlpha=67" loop="false" scale="noscale" bgcolor="#656565" width="369" height="619" name="PictoBrowser" align="middle"></embed></object><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-8041794175349447370?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-22992618728429441792008-06-19T10:57:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:30.903-08:00Mediocre Musican Mad At GodMMMAG here.<br /><br />I have had terrible writers block for years. Wanna help inspire me to write some more mediocre songs? Nows your chance!<br /><br />Give me some ideas for some mediocre song titles and I will try to write some mediocre lyrics and mediocre music!<br /><br />Sounds like a GREAT idea to me! Let's get ready to rock out with out C***'s out!<br /><br />-MMMAG<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-2299261872842944179?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com9tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-39720195368883590282008-05-13T14:48:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:30.911-08:00PUSSYToday from 11am to 12pm someone was only thinking about me! <br /><br />They must know me from when I worked at St. Andrews Presbyterian Church in Newport Beach since they kept referencing the shitty band I was in. PUSSY. Hiding behind the screen names: flutewheels, overcat (the enemy of Underdog. Underdog being the name of my band....clever.) and overgod. This person obviously has an issue with me.<br /><br />-------------------<br /><span style="font-style:italic;">stop being such a wuss. if you're sick of Christians then just drop Church already and stop crying out for people to talk you back into it. <br />Posted by flutewheels to Josh's SCP Blog at 5/13/2008 10:58 AM<br /><br />dude you take yourself WAY too seriously <br />Posted by overcat to Josh's SCP Blog at 5/13/2008 11:05 AM<br /><br />if Jesus made Josh a musician that could actually write a decent song that people were interested in, perhaps he wouldn't be so angry at Him. dont blame Christ for your own mediocrity, Joshy. <br />Posted by overcat to Josh's SCP Blog at 5/13/2008 11:08 AM<br /><br />maybe if you drink more JESUS JUICE you could write a song that doesnt sound like a nirvana/greenday rip off. <br />Posted by overcat to Josh's SCP Blog at 5/13/2008 11:19 AM<br /><br />LOOK AT ME NOTICE ME LOOK AT ME I DONT GO TO CHURCH, I AM MAD AT GOD FOR NOT MAKING ME A GOOD MUSICIAN, I AM ANGRY AND PEOPLE PLEASE LOOK AT ME, PAY ATTENTION TO ME, I FAILED AS A MUSICIAN SO NOW I HATE GOD, WEEP WEEP, I AM SALIERI AND GOD IS MOZART WEEEEP <br />Posted by overcat to Josh's SCP Blog at 5/13/2008 11:21 AM<br /><br />SCP should change to MMMAG<br />Mediocre Musician Mad At God <br />Posted by overcat to Josh's SCP Blog at 5/13/2008 11:32 AM<br /><br />MMMAG<br />medicore musican mad at God <br />Posted by overcat to Josh's SCP Blog at 5/13/2008 11:41 AM<br /><br />stop being such a wuss. if you're sick of Christians then just drop Church already and stop crying out for people to talk you back into it. <br />Posted by overcat to Josh's SCP Blog at 5/13/2008 11:42 AM<br /><br />weeeep <br />Posted by overgod to Josh's SCP Blog at 5/13/2008 11:48 AM<br /><br />Josh,<br /><br />Please stop being angry at me. I could only bless a certain amount of souls with musical talent, and the others I had to stamp a big "M" for mediocrity, yours being one of them. I am sorry for not making you into a Musican that is not bitter.<br /><br />G <br />Posted by overgod to Josh's SCP Blog at 5/13/2008 11:58 AM<br /><br />drink up, Salieri<br /><br />and give God a break, He made you the best he could with the bolonge he had left on the floor <br />Posted by overgod to Josh's SCP Blog at 5/13/2008 12:00 PM<br /><br />no matter how much you drink you'll still be the guy who was in a band that ripped off Nirvana, but I guess there were many of them, but just how many are mad at God for not blessing you with talent... probably lotz <br />Posted by overgod to Josh's SCP Blog at 5/13/2008 12:02 PM</span><br />-------------------<br /><br />So for everyone who is counting that’s:<br /><br />3 Blogger names<br /><br />12 Comments (14 if you count the double posts)<br /><br />1 Hour and 4 Minutes of this persons life<br /><br />1 BIG PUSSY<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-3972019536888359028?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com13tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-74131765606019788162008-05-12T13:41:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:30.932-08:00how about less video's, and more postsAlright. <br /><br />When I left the church a couple years ago, I left with my beliefs and passion to be a better Christ follower. It was a liberating move to leave the circle jerk of the church. I had a plan to just “want Christ” without any extra shit. But the questions kept piling on and the answers were nonexistent. <br /><br />Now I don’t know what I believe, but I know of things I DO NOT believe in anymore:<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">-Church (Obviously)</span><br />All churches are cultish if you think about it. Every church wants you to be involved with their schedule, rituals, speech, finances, etc.. And it is never encouraged to go to a different church, unless you are causing a headache at that church of course.<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">-Prayer</span><br />Just plain stupid. Giving God the credit when good things happen, but defending him when it doesn’t (“not his will”).<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">-Friendships made in the church</span><br />Try leaving the church and see how long those friendships last.<br /><br />It is almost TOO easy to stop believing in christianity as a whole. I don’t know if I can yet. My head says forget it, my heart says hang on. But for now I will just live my life and posting videos on my blog. And for all the video haters out there, here is a special one just for you:<br /><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cA-pWKRyyG8&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cA-pWKRyyG8&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-7413176560601978816?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com9tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-54866005633015823252008-04-30T13:24:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:30.944-08:00My take on TrotterLast year I "recut" one of his videos from his church. This is what I came up with:<br /><br /><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0TNK3fHnZZs&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0TNK3fHnZZs&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br /><br />How true...<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-5486600563301582325?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-60613829404214212582008-03-04T20:47:00.000-08:002009-11-16T20:41:30.953-08:00IGNORANCE: RELIGION<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Er5OSOFCvVQ"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Er5OSOFCvVQ" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br />Yep...<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-6061382940421421258?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-11447245547697657082007-12-06T21:49:00.000-08:002009-11-16T20:41:30.962-08:00Merry Joshmas!!!<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xwuXgJ6VQa8&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xwuXgJ6VQa8&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br />Fucking douche bag. You are offended because you think you are right and know it all. Fuck the Jews....right?!! There are other "traditions" and "beliefs" other than your own!!! ASSHOLE!!! I am SO sick of Christians being little bitches around the "Holidays". <br /><br />How about this ... you ignorant pricks:<br />Do you think Jesus wanted us to exchange gifts on Christmas ... NO ... Santa did. Stop worrying about what language the retailers use. Just because you want to save a buck the christian way. <br /><br />ANY CHRISTIAN WITH A CHRISTMAS TREE IS A HYPOCRITE!!!<br /><br />Seriously, maybe it is time for me to go back to church. I will go back and complain the whole time. I will talk about how I feel the church is unfair and not right. I will be extremely verbal on MY belief's. I will be disruptive during sermons because I think I'm right. BECAUSE I AM. Let's see how long they allow me to attend.<br /><br />(They will know we are Christians by our [love]) .... and judgement.<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Happy FUCKING JOSHMAS!!!</span><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-1144724554769765708?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com12tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-71923091742654959042007-11-13T19:38:00.000-08:002009-11-16T20:41:30.972-08:00WBC Response<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/s6gXB3PFVCI&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/s6gXB3PFVCI&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br />Thank God for 10.9 million.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-7192309174265495904?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-36554835739558671852007-11-13T19:28:00.000-08:002009-11-16T20:41:30.985-08:0020/20 Report On The Westboro Baptist Church<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/SVGQONqhGcY&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/SVGQONqhGcY&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-3655483573955867185?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-9402055764005847412007-11-04T10:27:00.000-08:002009-11-16T20:41:30.996-08:00HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!I am SO happy!!! I just got back from a kick ass vacation in Mexico.<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/beer-743839.JPG"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/beer-743304.JPG" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />I came home to this:<br /><br /><span style="font-style:italic;">By ALEX DOMINGUEZ<br />Wed Oct 31, 6:23 PM ET<br />BALTIMORE - A grieving father won a nearly $11 million verdict Wednesday against a fundamentalist Kansas church that pickets military funerals out of a belief that the war in Iraq is a punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.<br /> <br />Albert Snyder of York, Pa., sued the Westboro Baptist Church for unspecified damages after members demonstrated at the March 2006 funeral of his son, Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, who was killed in Iraq.<br /><br />The jury first awarded $2.9 million in compensatory damages. It returned in the afternoon with its decision to award $6 million in punitive damages for invasion of privacy and $2 million for causing emotional distress.<br /><br />Snyder's attorney, Craig Trebilcock, had urged jurors to determine an amount "that says don't do this in Maryland again. Do not bring your circus of hate to Maryland again."<br /><br />Church members routinely picket funerals of military personnel killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, carrying signs such as "Thank God for dead soldiers" and "God hates fags."<br /><br />A number of states have passed laws regarding funeral protests, and Congress has passed a law prohibiting such protests at federal cemeteries. But the Maryland lawsuit is believed to be the first filed by the family of a fallen serviceman.<br /><br />The church and three of its leaders — the Rev. Fred Phelps and his two daughters, Shirley Phelps-Roper and Rebecca Phelps-Davis, 46 — were found liable for invasion of privacy and intent to inflict emotional distress.<br /><br />Even the size of the award for compensating damages "far exceeds the net worth of the defendants," according to financial statements filed with the court, U.S. District Judge Richard Bennett noted.<br /><br />Snyder claimed the protests intruded upon what should have been a private ceremony and sullied his memory of the event.<br /><br />The church members testified they are following their religious beliefs by spreading the message that soldiers are dying because the nation is too tolerant of homosexuality.<br /><br />Their attorneys maintained in closing arguments Tuesday that the burial was a public event and that even abhorrent points of view are protected by the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech and religion.<br /><br />Earlier, church members staged a demonstration outside the federal courthouse. Church founder Fred Phelps held a sign reading "God is your enemy," while Shirley Phelps-Roper stood on an American flag and carried a sign that read "God hates fag enablers." Members of the group sang "God Hates America" to the tune of "God Bless America."<br /><br />Snyder sobbed when he heard the verdict, while members of the church greeted the news with tightlipped smiles.<br /></span><br /><br />Then I went to check their websites and found this:<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/godhatesfagsdotcom-724279.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/godhatesfagsdotcom-724273.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/signsofthetimes-724287.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/signsofthetimes-724285.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />Christmas came early this year!!!<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-940205576400584741?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com7tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-37458650043251213682007-10-08T23:08:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:31.005-08:00Read your bible!!!!!<embed src="http://godtube.com/flvplayer.swf" FlashVars="videoThumb=http://www.godtube.com/thumb/1_2123.jpg&flvPath=http://www.godtube.com/flvideo/16d438c38862cac1a78d/2123.flv" wmode="transparent" quality="high" width="330" height="270" name="flv_demo" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" /></embed><br />Ain't it true ...<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-3745865004325121368?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-58383718262718202082007-09-17T21:36:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:31.015-08:00So EFFING originalYou can count on christians to be last people to do anything. Christian bands try to sound like secular ones (usually after the style isn't popular anymore). Christian movies/church videos are only knock offs of the sinful originals. Today I was turned onto <a href="http://www.godtube.com">godtube.com</a>; the christian answer to the popular youtube.com. Blah. Next thing we know there will be a christian myspace. WAIT!!!! I just checked: <a href="http://www.jcpeople.com">jcpeople.com</a>. DAMN!!! I can't believe it. <br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/logo-720469.gif"><img style="float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/logo-720466.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a><br /><br />The church isn't a trend setter even though they think they are (you know, out being the "hip" salt and light). Don't you think if God was just a bit alive in the church, trends would follow the church. Wouldn't it be something powerful outside the walls of the church? Wouldn't the world be affected by the church. Instead, the church follows the trends of the world to find acceptance, to feel cool and to not feel too different. WTFWJD? <br /><br />I have an idea!!! I am going to open a christian bar!!! All the alcohol will be prayed over before it is served. Only christian karaoke ... I mean worship will be sung. I mean karaoke ... you will read the words on the screen and sing along. Yea.<br /><br />Alright, So I spent some time tonight watching some of the videos on godtube.com and I found one that interested me. You could tell it was used as a sermon illustration. But I think I might of taken the illustration the wrong way. Watch it first, then let me explain.<br /><embed src="http://godtube.com/flvplayer.swf" FlashVars="videoThumb=http://www.godtube.com/thumb/1_27830.jpg&flvPath=http://www.godtube.com/flvideo1/41/27830.flv" wmode="transparent" quality="high" width="330" height="270" name="flv_demo" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" /></embed><br /><br />Like I said before...only knock offs. So effing hip.<br /><br />Here is the description of the video:<br /><span style="font-style:italic;">This cartoon depicts how our world can distort the way we view things.</span><br /><br />And here is the description I came up with:<br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">This cartoon depicts the life of Josh Sager as he grew up within the church. From as early as he can remember he wore these EFFING glasses that supposedly saved him from burning in hell with the devil. As a scared little boy he listened to his sunday school teachers attentively and followed their instructions religiously. As he grew older, Jesus became cooler. Worship had drums. And we played jesus games at our jesus camps with our jesus friends and made jesus commitments. Right out of high school Josh volunteered his time with junior highers. Writing prescriptions for glasses of their own. He eventually got payed to do that. Hell, he wrote prescriptions he couldn't even fill. Then his glasses started giving him a headache. He would take them off behind closed doors to relieve the pain. He tried EVERYTHING to hide the pain ... even contact lens. Eventually the pain became too unbearable. Now he lives without the glasses and is able to see more clearly. Amen.</span><br /><br />I could go on and on.<br /><br />/rant over.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-5838371826271820208?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-58919493782725570472007-09-15T13:54:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:31.023-08:00Church Momma<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Uw93v2sjt8c"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Uw93v2sjt8c" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-5891949378272557047?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-5805792918873235712007-09-15T13:46:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:31.033-08:00We Got Jesus<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/yoptmDfWhXY"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/yoptmDfWhXY" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object><br /><br />WOW.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-580579291887323571?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-69297899357821182782007-09-10T21:54:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:31.041-08:00Religion<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/479px-Edgar_Allan_Poe_2-743443.jpg"><img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/479px-Edgar_Allan_Poe_2-743440.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br /><br />"All religion, my friend, is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination, and poetry."<br />~Edgar Allen Poe<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-6929789935782118278?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-88874988781804468142007-09-05T22:56:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:31.050-08:00And I thought I was an Apple guy<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/sexy-bill-gates-745612.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://www.stupidchurchpeople.com/uploaded_images/sexy-bill-gates-745610.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">"Just in terms of allocation of time resources, religion is not very efficient. There's a lot more I could be doing on a Sunday morning."</span><br /><span style="font-style:italic;">Bill Gates, Time Magazine, January 13, 1996<br />US computer software designer & industrialist (1955 - )</span><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-8887498878180446814?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195035852393694688.post-76789279516775121332007-08-23T22:25:00.000-07:002009-11-16T20:41:31.061-08:00I effing love this guy<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/9CKq_qIXsIo"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/9CKq_qIXsIo" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3195035852393694688-7678927951677512133?l=www.stupidchurchpeople.net' alt='' /></div>Joshua Sagernoreply@blogger.com0